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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Last Updated: 23.06.2025 15:40

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

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My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

Sain (a barber)

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

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For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

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Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

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Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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CONCLUSION:

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Eligendi molestiae corrupti numquam voluptatum doloremque laudantium eum.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

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Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

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ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

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Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

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Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

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Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

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Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

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But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

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Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

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Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Now here in this verse

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

I am like a fish out of water,

NOW…

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

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ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

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There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

then who is there to know what happens without?

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

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— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

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Kabir (a weaver)

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;